Curse

StormX · May 31, 2010, 05:37 AM // 05:37

wow, at first i thought the 3+1 was a mistake. Anyway, it would be nice if there were some other ways of aquiring supplies other than mindlessly farming falken over and over. (the dude aggroes like nobodies business and goes down fast in HM lol) Or maybe restore the old reward but put a cap on the number or times you can receive it... like 3 per day or something.

cellardweller · May 31, 2010, 05:47 AM // 05:47

I don't have any problem with the 3, its the +1 thats out of wack. If it were something like +6 to +10 I'd be more inclined to do them.

Lord Sojar · May 31, 2010, 09:12 AM // 09:12

The 3+1 bounties are terrible, I agree.

However, the +30 bounties are for Inquisitors, and it should remain that way, as they are near the peak of White Mantle power. Those Jade Cloaks are scary too... Mesmers are one of the only things that can kill them effectively.

zwei2stein · May 31, 2010, 10:35 AM // 10:35

With several secondary characters, you can cherry pick "good" 15-supplies bounties and do just them (half ofcharacter on day its available, other half just taking them and doing them next day.)

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Originally Posted by Gill Halendt

Easy there, I was just kidding!

This applies more to everyone else than you, chill

So far, farming supplies is shot into dark. Shots into dark are naturally going to be frustrating, hence me being annoyed by people who shoot into darkness and are upset that they are (doh) missing.

Yol · May 31, 2010, 10:36 AM // 10:36

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

Those Jade Cloaks are scary too... Mesmers are one of the only things that can kill them effectively.

Anything running PI (pain inverter) at max asuran rank can deal with them without any trouble. The only time I have trouble with them is when I've missed something healing them, which is easy to do now that the skill bars are random (had a few instances of sycophants running almost full healing bars, for example).

I agree that the rewards don't make sense. The bonus for doing it in hard mode should be higher than the original reward for doing it normal mode. 3+1 is silly when it should be 1+3.

Lord Sojar · May 31, 2010, 11:44 AM // 11:44

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Originally Posted by Yol

Anything running PI (pain inverter) at max asuran rank can deal with them without any trouble. The only time I have trouble with them is when I've missed something healing them, which is easy to do now that the skill bars are random (had a few instances of sycophants running almost full healing bars, for example).

I agree that the rewards don't make sense. The bonus for doing it in hard mode should be higher than the original reward for doing it normal mode. 3+1 is silly when it should be 1+3.

You know that they have an ungodly amount of health, and their Glyph of Restoration heals them for like 350+ right? They are the hardest hitting, most armored, highest health standard unit in the game. I'd say that's not something you want to joke around with.

I'm not suggesting nerfing them, personally I think all the QQing in Lions was hilarious. They are a fun challenge to beat, and I don't see them being nerfed.

Yol · May 31, 2010, 12:51 PM // 12:51

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

You know that they have an ungodly amount of health, and their Glyph of Restoration heals them for like 350+ right? They are the hardest hitting, most armored, highest health standard unit in the game. I'd say that's not something you want to joke around with.

I'm not suggesting nerfing them, personally I think all the QQing in Lions was hilarious. They are a fun challenge to beat, and I don't see them being nerfed.

Personally I really like them and I like the fact that we have these challenging foes amongst the new inclusions in the WiK content. All I can say is that my first meeting with them (I think it was the Lashona bounty in hm a few days ago) was rather brief, because it cast its' aoe spells on my crowd of minions and spirits right after I cast PI on it and followed it up with Finish Him......yes, yes, I know, pve skills....

Don't nerf them, they don't need nerfing, and I think the game needs a few foes which can individually cause party wipes if you're not prepared or paying attention.

aspi · May 31, 2010, 02:01 PM // 14:01

I forgot to bring PI in the Bauer mission, and to make things worse there were 2 of these new cloaks. They made quick work of my team in HM. Took my complete team to get him down.

Death Heavens · May 31, 2010, 04:38 PM // 16:38

If they rebalanced the bounties, its really not showing.
I am not bothering to hike to Kessex Peak in HM for 4 measly WS when I can just run Falken in 7 minutes for 3 of them.
The reward should equal the amount of time and effort it takes. In this case, is not!

/signed

Mintha Syl · May 31, 2010, 05:20 PM // 17:20

At least for kessex peak you have a 8 party...I found them to be the easiest (and so the fastest). While 4 supplies for crossing all nebo's terrace or [insert area name here] with a stupid party...eww

tmakinen · May 31, 2010, 06:52 PM // 18:52

I have farmed every single bounty on 6 characters and starting to feel really burned, and as expected, gotten only useless rubbish. Considering that over a year of Nick farming (and not missing a single opportunity) has yielded exactly one walking stick and no other rare drops, I don't think that I'll be bothering with this much longer. Bauer was down 3 minutes into the zone and netted 30 supplies, some of the longer hikes take up to 30 minutes for what, 4 supplies. That's madness

Lord Sojar · May 31, 2010, 07:05 PM // 19:05

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Originally Posted by tmakinen

That's madness

Madness? No, THIS IS ANET'S NO GRIND PHILOSOPHY!!!!!!!!!! /kickintobottomlesswell

If this is a petition, then...

/signed.

These bounties need to scale according to completion time, and Hard Mode needs to give more than +1 or +5... It needs to be at LEAST double the reward, because the Peacekeepers aren't insanely tough, but they certainly aren't pushovers in Hard Mode.

belshazaarswrath · May 31, 2010, 07:07 PM // 19:07

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Originally Posted by Yol

Don't nerf them, they don't need nerfing, and I think the game needs a few foes which can individually cause party wipes if you're not prepared or paying attention.

The game has more than a few foes like that...

Anyway I haven't found the Cloaks harder than anything else out there. I personally think sandstorm crags are much much worse.

Showtime · May 31, 2010, 07:09 PM // 19:09

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Originally Posted by Gill Halendt

Rewards are often so poor that the War in Kryta will likely end with an insurrection to bring Salma down...

Then we'll have:

Stingy Was Salma

Exactly... I hope she loses this war. Feel like cheap labor who using all his meager earnings at her casino.

Lord Sojar · May 31, 2010, 07:14 PM // 19:14

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Originally Posted by belshazaarswrath

The game has more than a few foes like that...

Anyway I haven't found the Cloaks harder than anything else out there. I personally think sandstorm crags are much much worse.

No way.... Cloaks have 140 armor against EVERYTHING, and they do substantially more damage in hard mode. They also have the Prophecies boss aura on them. Hands down, cloaks are one of the hardest to beat basic units in the game, if they can even be considered that. Going against 2+ cloaks = a nightmare I'd rather not have, but will if needed (with my Mesmer or a Mesmer hero). Long live Mesmers!

Trader of Secrets · May 31, 2010, 07:24 PM // 19:24

geez still with these 3+1 rewards, what happened to at least 10+5, at this rate it makes NM courier worth doing for these supplies.

Shadowspawn X · May 31, 2010, 09:43 PM // 21:43

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Originally Posted by Trader of Secrets

geez still with these 3+1 rewards, what happened to at least 10+5, at this rate it makes NM courier worth doing for these supplies.

Exactly, before its all over players will grind Falken for 3 rewards and love it!

revelation · May 31, 2010, 10:39 PM // 22:39

I don't like to complain, but this is really ridiculous.. I passed WiK stuff on 3 of my characters to hopefully get some War Supplies but it seems that anyone that missed the Courier Falken 0-24 farming for few days can forget about any decent rewards.. I spend 30-60 minutes (3x Wanted Quest) for lousy 12 total War Supplies, while people got that without any effort at all and a lot faster as well.

isamu kurosawa · May 31, 2010, 11:03 PM // 23:03

I do find it funny seeing people complaining about the poor level of rewards when we at this point in time are not only clueless as to the quantity needed but also what the will be needed for.

Jade cloaks btw are great editions and as a primary mesmer i was happy to be able to test out the recent skill buffs on them.

Nerel · May 31, 2010, 11:17 PM // 23:17

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Originally Posted by belshazaarswrath

The game has more than a few foes like that...

Anyway I haven't found the Cloaks harder than anything else out there. I personally think sandstorm crags are much much worse.

Much like the Jade eles with Inquisitor Bauer, this is just another for that can be one shotted with Pain Inverter.